Orphan Crow:
In a earlier post did you say that Bloodless surgery is when a patient is anemic?
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Orphan Crow:
In a earlier post did you say that Bloodless surgery is when a patient is anemic?
http://theconversation.com/blood-transfusion-refusals-why-new-guidelines-arent-up-to-scratch-70237.
blood transfusion refusals – why new guidelines aren’t up to scratch .
february 22, 2017. blood transfusions are a common and often lifesaving procedure.
Lee Elder, do you truly believe that these doctors and researchers, are being unduly influenced by Watchtower?
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All my point was, most hospitals who have programs like this do not call it Bloodless Surgery or Bloodless Medicine. They call it now Blood Management or Blood Conservation program because the hospitals take a multi-discipline strateg that hospitals are using to reduce blood loss and blood use.
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I am not saying that it is simple. I am just saying that most hospitals with these programs don't call it bloodless surgery. It is blood management or blood conservation. And that the hospitals that have these programs make a conscious effort in reducing blood transfusions. Even the American College of Thoracic Surgeons have reduced the hemoglobin level that should auto-trigger a blood transfusion when it comes to protocols.
http://www.lainformacion.com/politica/derechos-humanos/exmiembros-testigos-jehova-denunciaran-entregarles_0_990801892.html.
http://www.telecinco.es/informativos/sociedad/exmiembros-testigos-jehova-denunciaran-entregarles_0_2308950586.html.
https://okdiario.com/sociedad/2017/01/16/ex-miembros-testigos-jehova-acusan-organizacion-ocultar-ley-miles-casos-abusos-sexuales-menores-671613jehovah's witness members will report to the organization for failing to provide them with documents regarding child abuse.
It may be that the Agency gives the person requesting the information the ability to write in their demand letter that the information needs to be submitted by a certain date. This is even common in the US, when a matter is time sensitive and you put it in the letter that would indicate to the recipient that it is important and should strive to meet that deadline. But I just don't see a 7-day and a 30-day time limit in the statute, at least not in the English translation of it.
i have made a poll to try to determine the impact of the wt's no blood policy on ex members.. if you are an exjw, please participate.. vote here:.
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Watchtower calls it bloodless surgery and a some hospitals also call it that. But the proper name for it would be blood management or blood conservation programs. The idea is to have a multi-system and multi-discipline effort to conserve and manage blood loss and blood transfusion use. Simple examples, is like in NICUs the coordination of physicians, nurses, respiratory therapists and others to draw blood at the same time. In a NICU the RT will work with the Nurse and the Nurse will work with the Physician to determine what tests need to be ran in the next couple of hours, so that they only have to draw it once, and determine if any tests would be redundant and could be skipped. In CICU or SICU it is making sure that the surgeons and physicians are the ones that are available to write orders and not just relying on the hospitalist or medical director, who may know very little about the case to write orders for them. The programs are to take in everyone on the patient care team to make sure that there is good coordination, communication and execution in order to limit blood loss.
judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.
imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.
by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.
Tomorrow is the filing deadline for Watchtower first brief in the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals for California. It will be interesting to read the full brief.
http://www.lainformacion.com/politica/derechos-humanos/exmiembros-testigos-jehova-denunciaran-entregarles_0_990801892.html.
http://www.telecinco.es/informativos/sociedad/exmiembros-testigos-jehova-denunciaran-entregarles_0_2308950586.html.
https://okdiario.com/sociedad/2017/01/16/ex-miembros-testigos-jehova-acusan-organizacion-ocultar-ley-miles-casos-abusos-sexuales-menores-671613jehovah's witness members will report to the organization for failing to provide them with documents regarding child abuse.
I am definitely not saying that I am right, since this is Spanish law, but it does not indicate that the law sets out a time period for when either the information must be given the person requesting their information. Neither does it appear that there is a time limit set out for objection of releasing the information. The time limit that is set out is that of rectification, that when a person wants to rescind their consent to the gathering and storing of personal information that the data must be destroyed or, in essence, put into quarantine, ready for destruction following any possible litigation, within 10 days. Also, this seems to be not a matter for the police but for the Data Protection Agency.
http://www.lainformacion.com/politica/derechos-humanos/exmiembros-testigos-jehova-denunciaran-entregarles_0_990801892.html.
http://www.telecinco.es/informativos/sociedad/exmiembros-testigos-jehova-denunciaran-entregarles_0_2308950586.html.
https://okdiario.com/sociedad/2017/01/16/ex-miembros-testigos-jehova-acusan-organizacion-ocultar-ley-miles-casos-abusos-sexuales-menores-671613jehovah's witness members will report to the organization for failing to provide them with documents regarding child abuse.
Is there a law in Spain that states that a person can request any information that an organization has on themselves?
day two (wednesday 8 february 2017).
see also posts and threads regarding: pre-trial / day one / day one update / day five (last day, settlement).
jefferson: not totally.. zeff: okay.
On this site and others people have repeatedly stated that child abuse is a crime and not a sin. I view it as both a crime and a sin. But lets go with the fact that it is a crime. So morality should not come into a factor on this, only the legality of the instance. If it was just a morality issue then yes the "minutiae" of the legality of it wouldn't come into this case as a factor. The legal details matter greatly. First, it doesn't matter if Watchtower views Elders as clergy, the law views them as such. Each state that gives clergy-penitent privilege defines what a member of the clergy is. Some states have very broad definitions and some have extremely narrow defined. Second, again the law defines what is considered a confidential communication. If it was only given to Catholic confessionals, that would be unconstitutional and be struck down. Most states define the privilege as communication that is part of the beliefs and discipline of their faith, and that both the communicant and the clergy member recognize as a confidential matter. Even if that communication occurs in front of other people, who are also providing "spiritual" help. Third, the person who is the communicant is the one that holds the privilege, not the clergy member. As pointed out in People v Bragg, only the communicant can release the clergy member from that privilege, even if the clergy member divulges the information to a third party, because it is the moral thing to do. So yes, if you want to think of child abuse as a moral issue that Watchtower's actions are reprehensible, but if you look at it from a legal point of view they are doing what they are supposed to do.